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Re: Operation Ghost Click

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Wed May 2 16:19:03 2012

In-Reply-To: <20120502200244.GH9267@hiwaay.net>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 16:18:11 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> Once upon a time, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net> said:
>> Not withstanding that, according to you, in some places the landlines
>> "clipped the copper below the ground-level" I believe that vast majority
>> of the country has working copper phone lines that continue to work
>> during a power outage.
>
> Not so much. =A0As has been pointed out here many times before, many
> people now get POTS lines from remote cabinets that have limited battery
> life and fail in a power outage lasting more than a few minutes.

yes, this.

in the last 2 neighborhoods I've lived in... near/around ashburn, va
(home to verizon, mci, lots of telco/bell-shaped-heads) I've always
been serviced from a remote terminal, that has often failed when the
power has cycled... There's a slew of places in the US where you don't
actually go all the way back to the CO on a single copper pair :(

never mind the places where the mini-co bundles you up on some
mpls/ccc/etc link ...

anyway :)


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