[152309] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Miller)
Wed Apr 25 02:11:21 2012
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 02:10:47 -0400
From: David Miller <dmiller@tiggee.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <4F978420.4040605@brightok.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 4/25/2012 12:57 AM, Jack Bates wrote:
> On 4/24/2012 2:00 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> I know that the ARIN process can, on occasion be tricky to navigate
>> if you don't
>> understand the subtleties of how some of the terminology is defined
>> and that people
>> often use terms which have very specific meanings to ARIN staff
>> members to have
>> a much broader meaning in what they are intending to say. I know that
>> often leads
>> to misunderstandings which make the process even more difficult.
>
> Yeah. Let's not forget that if you have 120 management devices (wifi
> backhaul/switches/waps) and a ton of customers with /32 assignments
> and you are renumbering from provider assigned space you gathered over
> many years into your own initial ARIN assignment, they want:
>
> 1. equipment type and info for each management device
> 2. customer info for each /32 assignment
>
> Tell me what ISP can legally and ethically give out their customer
> base information? Don't get me wrong. I'm sure small guys don't think
> twice about it, accumulating all the information and handing it over
> to ARIN thinking they have no choice (the responses from ARIN leaves
> one with that impression; you want the address space, you WILL give us
> this).
>
> I sometimes wonder what happens to that information; if it sits around
> in an archive somewhere in the vast digital repositories of ARIN
> awaiting someone to steal it.
>
> Jack
>
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