[152299] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Apr 24 14:18:05 2012
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAHsqw9u105Kqi_0MoNRbLQ+CLKEDNfrq0vdcOMFx1wOXAZZ1ug@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:14:29 -0700
To: Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Apr 24, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM, <admin@thecpaneladmin.com> wrote:
>> Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user =
allocation
>> they are requesting that we provide customer names for existing =
allocations,
>> which is information that will take a while to obtain. They are =
insisting
>> that this is standard process and something that everyone does when
>> requesting IPs. Has anyone actually had to do this?
>=20
> Indeed. It's worked this way for a long time.
>=20
> When starting a new organization, there's a bit of a chicken and egg
> problem with IP space. If anyone could get IP space just for asking
> for it, it would have been consumed too quickly. So, organizations
> must first get some space assigned to them from an upstream provider
> and begin using it.
> At some point the current usage and growth rate of the assigned space
> will justify a direct allocation.
>=20
> Then, you can renumber into your new space and be totally independent.
>=20
> Cheers,
> jof
That's not entirely true. What you say applies to one possible way for =
an
ISP to get an allocation. It does not apply at all to end-users.
Owen
