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Re: Outdoor Wireless Access Point

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Maslak)
Sat Mar 31 12:56:48 2012

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From: Joel Maslak <jmaslak@antelope.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:56:12 -0600
To: Shahab Vahabzadeh <sh.vahabzadeh@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mar 31, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Shahab Vahabzadeh <sh.vahabzadeh@gmail.com> wro=
te:

> As I look for maps we need at least 3 or 4 outdoor radio, I think in these=

> networks the best solution is to have only one SSID in whole network to
> give mobility for the network, is this called ad-hoc? or it has an other
> name?

No, it's still infrastructure mode, not ad-hoc.

Ad-hoc means "no access point".

All you need to do is set the APs up to use the same SSID and authentication=
 methods, keys, etc.  It's pretty simple and can even be done with consumer g=
ear (with less stable performance of course).  If you don't put the APs all o=
n the same layer 3 LAN (same subnet), you'll need some sort of controller-ba=
sed solutions so that a user's IP address still makes sense to their compute=
r when they move from one AP to another.  If you can keep all the APs on one=
 subnet, you won't need that.

It gets a bit more complex if you are using radio to link buildings together=
 and/or backhaul to the access point.  There's plenty of good references on t=
he internet.

Note that the wireless handoffs aren't perfect on basic 802.11 gear.  Your l=
aptop might not pick the best AP if it can hear multiple APs.  And you might=
 lose a few packets when you hand-off between APs, but it's typically no big=
 deal.   Your ssh session would stay connected across those hand-offs just f=
ine.

If you plan on doing VoIP on the wireless, it gets more complex yet - you ha=
ve to worry about the time it takes handoffs and that can be more complex.  Y=
ou have to implement WMM and DSCP.  You need to worry about low-speed users (=
1mbps, 2mbps, etc) on the same link.  It's a lot harder to build a VoIP wire=
less solution than a web browsing wireless solution, but still plentty possi=
ble to do without expensive equipment.

In summary: you probably should find a guide on how to build wireless networ=
ks, preferably a vendor agnostic one.  You will either be the hero of your o=
rganization or the enemy, depending on how well your network works.=


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