[151559] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sat Mar 24 10:18:02 2012
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <75c3a6a8-d695-4632-8f70-43ba717cf41e@email.android.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 07:13:39 -0700
To: Joseph Snyder <joseph.snyder@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
We've been funding it for years without getting it because of the stupid =
way in which it has been funded.
I suggest you look into USF in more detail.
Owen
On Mar 24, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Joseph Snyder wrote:
> Lol too early in the morning, that much for so few, but if you are =
going to govt fund copper replacement, it's probably the way to go. Not =
sure how costly that would be in the US since even in the cities there =
are a lot of duplexes.
> --=20
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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> Joseph Snyder <joseph.snyder@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Any details on how much this cost, maybe I just missed it in the =
article. 40k. It sounds interesting but in the US this would only make =
sense in cities and most people don't live in MDUs. Where I live a lot =
of peoples driveways are a mile or two long.
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> Marcel Plug <marcelplug@gmail.com> wrote:
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> This article from arstechnica is right on topic. Its about how the
> city of Amsterdam built an open-access fibre network. It seems to me
> this is the right way to do it, or at least very close to the right
> way..
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> =
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterdam-was-wired-fo=
r-open-access-fiber.ars
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> -Marcel
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> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:18:26 -1000, Michael Painter said:
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>>> "The indication of above average or below average is based on a =
comparison of the actual test result to the current NTIA
>>> definition of broadband which is 768 kbps download and 200 kbps =
upload. Any test result above the NTIA definition is
>>> considered above average, and any result below is considered below =
average."
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>> That's the national definition of "broadband" that we're stuck with. =
To show
>> how totally cooked the books are, consider that when they compute =
"percent of
>> people with access to residential broadband", they do it on a =
per-county basis
>> - and if even *one* subscriber in one corner of the county has =
broadband, the
>> entire county counts.
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