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Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Masataka Ohta)
Fri Mar 23 18:16:07 2012

Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 07:13:54 +0900
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
In-Reply-To: <CAP-guGU42AfBo4OHPn61CDsJOy4ECiHPj5_sA66WRiZz6jNk1w@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

William Herrin wrote:

>> However, with time slotted PON, unbundling must be
>> at L2, which is as expensive as L3, which means
>> there effectively is no unbundling.
> 
> I strongly disagree. If this were true, there would be no market for
> MPLS service: folks would simply buy Internet service and run VPNs.

You agree with me. MPLS at L2 sucks because it is as expensive
as, but less capable than, IP at L3.

> If you take my packets off at the first hop and deliver them to a 3rd
> party provider,

If you are saying delivery as IP, your local provider is an
ISP with monopoly.

> Even if the cost for the unbundled L2 circuit was *identical* to the
> cost of the bundled Internet circuit it would enable a huge range of
> niche products that aren't practical now.

See the reality of your example of MPLS.

						Masataka Ohta


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