[151434] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Thomas)
Wed Mar 21 15:17:45 2012
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:16:06 -0700
From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
In-Reply-To: <16083253.7473.1332356332235.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 03/21/2012 11:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eric Wieling"<EWieling@nyigc.com>
>> Verizon, the copper wireline company, is removing service from
>> locations EVERY TIME VZ fiber is installed in a building. This
>> prevents other companies from providing service by leasing Verizon's
>> copper infrastructure. If there was copper at a location then VZ would
>> be required to resell it and nobody would be locked out.
> TTBOMK, whether Verizon has copper to a building has *no bearing at all*
> on whether a CLEC can place an order for wholesale service to that location;
> VZN is *required* to provide that wholesale service, at the regulated NRC
> and MRC rates, whether they currently happen to have the physical facilities
> in place or not -- are you alleging either that I've misunderstood that,
> or that VZN is refusing such orders *simply* because they've removed
> facilities to an address where FiOS has done an install?
>
> Cause either of those ought to violate the rules.
>
So if Verizon is on the hook to support the CLEC's, why are they
pulling the local loop? I'm sure it isn't free to pull it and certainly
not to reinstall it, so what might be their motivation?
Mike
