[150578] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Programmers with network engineering skills
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rodrick Brown)
Mon Feb 27 20:05:06 2012
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From: Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:04:04 -0500
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:53 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Brandt, Ralph wrote:
>>> Generalists are hard to come by these days.
>>=20
>> I think you're more likely to find a network engineer with (possibly limi=
ted)
>> programming skills.
>=20
> I wish. For the past three months I've been trying to find a network
> engineer with a deep TCP/IP protocol understanding, network security
> expertise, some Linux experience, minor programming skill with sockets
> and a TS/SCI clearance.
>=20
> The clearance is killing me. The two generalists didn't have a
> clearance and the cleared applicants are programmers or admins but
> never both.
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>> Good Luck guys like these are being scooped up by large financial
>> firms and hedgefunds and they don't come cheap ~$250k easy!
>=20
> Not all of them. I've been approached a few times but there is
> something sleazy about helping a bunch of tycoons do millisecond
> timing attacks against the market. The money doesn't magically appear.
> Every dollar they squeeze out that way is stolen from some grandmother
> who has held the stock for 20 years.
>=20
Try explaining the number of ex-Bell Lab R&D folks working on trading desks t=
hese days. A major financial firm I worked for in the past directly targeted=
candidates from the telecom industry. In recent news a russian programmer w=
ho allegedly stole Goldman Sachs proprietary code was making $400k/year and h=
e's probably still on the market looking for work :-)=20
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
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