[15012] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [Fwd: smurf... still?]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Gibson)
Thu Feb 5 10:23:11 1998
Reply-To: "Michael Gibson" <magibson@netcom.ca>
From: "Michael Gibson" <magibson@netcom.ca>
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <msk@concentric.net>,
"Heather Knape" <hknape@pbi.net>
Cc: "Sharif Torpis" <faust@grift.com>, <tatsuya@giganet.net>,
<djr@narnia.n.ml.org>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:58:47 -0500
We at Netcom Canada, only migrated the customer base for portions of the old
Hookup network. The Hookup core was torn down, with the address space going
to Interhop (another ISP in Toronto).
Michael Gibson
Sr. Network Admin - Netcom Canada
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray S. Kucherawy <msk@concentric.net>
To: Heather Knape <hknape@pbi.net>
Cc: Sharif Torpis <faust@grift.com>; tatsuya@giganet.net
<tatsuya@giganet.net>; djr@narnia.n.ml.org <djr@narnia.n.ml.org>;
nanog@merit.edu <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thursday, February 05, 1998 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: smurf... still?]
>Yep, I left HookUp in very early January of 1997. I wouldn't even know
>who to talk to up there at this point. I don't think HookUp exists
>anymore, but clearly some of their equipment is still on and running,
>presumably for the customer transition to NetCom.
>
>You guys are on your own with this one. You might try seeking help from
>their upstream providers, Sprint Canada I believe.
>
>Incidentally, my last name isn't "Kucher", it's "Kucherawy". There still
>are some last names out there that don't fit in UNIX userids, you know.
>:-)
>
>-MSK
>
>On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Heather Knape wrote:
>> nope-ola...he's gone down to concentric.
>>
>> I think he is msk@cris.com.
>> -Heather
>> >
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>> > can u forward this to murray? mskucher@pbi.net bounces ... is he still
>> > there?
>> >
>> > --
>> > "Gas, grass, or ass, nobody rides for free."
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>> > To: Tatsuya Kawasaki <tatsuya@giganet.net>
>> > Cc: Daniel Reed <djr@narnia.n.ml.org>, nanog@merit.edu
>> > Subject: Re: smurf... still?
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>> > On Wed, Feb 04, 1998 at 12:01:49PM +0900, Tatsuya Kawasaki wrote:
>> > > Daniel,
>> > >
>> > > Try mskucher@hookup.net
>> > >
>> > > HookUp Communications
>> > > 165.154.0.0/16
>> > >
>> > > do you think this will help?
>> >
>> > Daniel,
>> >
>> > $ whois 167.154.0.0
>> > 1075 North Service Road West, Suite 207
>> > Oakville, Ontario L6M 2G2
>> > Canada
>> >
>> > Netname: HOOKUP-NET-4
>> > Netnumber: 165.154.0.0
>> >
>> > Murray Kucher (mskucher@hookup.net, still listed as hookup's contact in
>> > various databases) has long left HookUp; I don't believe his
@hookup.net
>> > address works anymore.
>> >
>> > To confuse matters further, NetCom Canada has some odd ownership of
HookUp,
>> > whom I believe declared bankruptcy. Last I heard, NetCom only acquired
>> > HookUp's customer base. I mention this in the event that you are
unable
>> > to find anyone at HookUp -- try a contact from www.netcom.ca instead.
>> >
>> > noc@hookup.net may forward somewhere useful.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> >
>> > -Chris
>> >
>> > Chris Portman =================================================
chris@unix.org
>> > Senior Systems Operations and Security iSTAR
Internet Inc.
>> > (613) 788-7767 Ottawa,
ON, CA
>> >
>> >
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>--
>Murray S. Kucherawy =============================================
msk@cris.com
>Senior Software Engineer/UNIX Wizard Concentric Network
Corporation
>(408) 342-2800 NIC Handle "MSK" Cupertino, CA,
USA
># "Do you lead, or are you led? Are you sure that you don't care?" -- INXS
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>
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