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Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Sat Feb 11 13:30:30 2012

To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:09:25 PST."
 <m2sjihpa9m.wl%randy@psg.com>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:28:57 -0500
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:09:25 PST, Randy Bush said:
> >>>> My $0.02 on this issue is if the message is rich text I hover over the link
> >>>> and see where it actually sends me.
> >>> idn has made this unsafe
> > Techniques to deal with this sort of spoofing already exist: see
> > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/tld-idn-policy-list.html
> > for one quite effective approach.

Nice.  Basically, unless the TLD registrar has a public policy that basically says
"We don't allow names with cyrillic C to collide with MICROSOFT", their hostnames
all get displayed as xn--gobbledygook.

(The actual policy for the .UA registrar is more subtle. They *do* in fact
allow "U+0441 Cyrillic Small Letter ES" which is visually a C to us Latin-glyph
users.  However, they require at least one character that's visually unique to
Cyrillic in the domain name.  They also don't allow mixed Cyrillic/Latin
scripts in one domain name).  Or so http://www.hostmaster.ua/idn/
tells me after Google Translate gets done with it. ;)

> and grandma is gonna use this?  with internet exploder or safari?

If the manufacturers of IE and Safari can't come up with a similar policy,
then the people at Mozilla can use "We protect you from malicious names"
as a marketing diffferentiation feature.

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