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Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Wed Feb 1 01:15:55 2012

To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:00:44 -0800."
 <D73AF1AF-B75E-49B6-937A-5FBE770AD83D@virtualized.org>
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:14:42 +1100
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


In message <D73AF1AF-B75E-49B6-937A-5FBE770AD83D@virtualized.org>, David Conrad
 writes:
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
> >> "We have a contractual relationship with our customer to announce =
> that =3D
> >> space.  We have neither a contractual relationship (in this context) =
> =3D
> >> with the RIR nor the RIR's customer.  The RIR and/or the RIR's =
> customer =3D
> >> should resolve this issue with our customer."
> >=20
> > And if I have a contract to commit murder that doesn't mean that
> > it is right nor legal.  A contract can't get you out of dealing
> > with the law of the land and in most place in the world "aiding and
> > abetting" is illegal.
> 
> You appear to be making a large number of assumptions on limited =
> evidence. In the case I'm familiar with, I can assure you that no laws =
> were being broken (even if all the parties were in the same country, =
> which they weren't).  However, this is getting off-topic and I don't =
> want to hijack the thread.  The issue of route hijacking is quite =
> serious and it will be interesting to see how this all works out.

And would sidr have helped.
 
> Regards,
> -drc
> 
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka@isc.org


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