[149281] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Jan 31 21:06:10 2012
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20120201015257.39A071C95D68@drugs.dv.isc.org>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:03:22 -0800
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
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> In message <7B85F9D8-BA9E-4341-9242-5EB514895B4C@virtualized.org>, =
David Conrad=20
> writes:
>>> I hope none of you ever get hijacked by a spammer housed at Phoenix =
=3D
>> NAP. :)
>>=20
>> In the dim past, I had a somewhat similar situation:
>>=20
>> - A largish (national telco of a small country) ISP started =
announcing =3D
>> address space a customer of theirs provided. Unfortunately, the =
address =3D
>> space wasn't the ISP's customer's to provide.
>> - When the ISP was notified by both their RIR and the organization to =
=3D
>> which the address space was rightfully delegated, the ISP's response =
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>> was:
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>> "We have a contractual relationship with our customer to announce =
that =3D
>> space. We have neither a contractual relationship (in this context) =
=3D
>> with the RIR nor the RIR's customer. The RIR and/or the RIR's =
customer =3D
>> should resolve this issue with our customer."
>>=20
>> It as an eye-opening experience.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> -drc
>=20
> And if I have a contract to commit murder that doesn't mean that
> it is right nor legal. A contract can't get you out of dealing
> with the law of the land and in most place in the world "aiding and
> abetting" is illegal.
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> Mark
> --=20
> Mark Andrews, ISC
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
Not to put a damper on things, but, is there actually any law that =
precludes use of integers as internet addresses contrary to the =
registration data contained in RIR databases?
I can see how a case might be made for tortious interference, but I =
think it's quite nebulous and I believe a civil matter at best. IANAL, =
but, I actually wonder if there is any way to construe the behavior in =
question as criminal and if so, under what statute(s).
Owen
