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Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Tue Jan 31 20:54:16 2012

To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:15:29 -0800."
 <7B85F9D8-BA9E-4341-9242-5EB514895B4C@virtualized.org>
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:52:57 +1100
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


In message <7B85F9D8-BA9E-4341-9242-5EB514895B4C@virtualized.org>, David Conrad 
writes:
> > I hope none of you ever get hijacked by a spammer housed at Phoenix =
> NAP.  :)
> 
> In the dim past, I had a somewhat similar situation:
> 
> - A largish (national telco of a small country) ISP started announcing =
> address space a customer of theirs provided.  Unfortunately, the address =
> space wasn't the ISP's customer's to provide.
> - When the ISP was notified by both their RIR and the organization to =
> which the address space was rightfully delegated, the ISP's response =
> was:
> 
> "We have a contractual relationship with our customer to announce that =
> space.  We have neither a contractual relationship (in this context) =
> with the RIR nor the RIR's customer.  The RIR and/or the RIR's customer =
> should resolve this issue with our customer."
> 
> It as an eye-opening experience.
> 
> Regards,
> -drc

And if I have a contract to commit murder that doesn't mean that
it is right nor legal.  A contract can't get you out of dealing
with the law of the land and in most place in the world "aiding and
abetting" is illegal.

Mark
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka@isc.org


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