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Re: MD5 considered harmful

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Fri Jan 27 18:23:09 2012

From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <0B6DEEFE-0049-4223-BB76-4A6A52D929E2@ianai.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:20:17 -0500
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Jan 27, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

> Your network, your decision.  On my network, we do not do MD5.  We do =
more traffic than anyone and have to be in the top 10 of total eBGP =
peering sessions on the planet.  Guess how many times we've seen anyone =
even attempt this attack?  If you guessed more than zero, guess again.
>=20
> I am fully well aware saying this in a public place means someone, =
probably many someones, will try it now just to prove me wrong.  I still =
don't care.  What does that tell you?
>=20
> STOP USING MD5 ON BGP.

I would generally say: If you are on a p2p link or control the network, =
then yeah, you don't need md5.  If you are at a shared medium (e.g.: IX) =
I do recommend it there, as it will help mitigate cases where someone =
can hijack your session by putting your IP/ASN whatnot on the router.

The threat (Attack) never became real and we've now had enough time that =
even the slowest carriers are running fixed code.

- Jared=


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