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Re: juniper mx80 vs cisco asr 1000

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Skeeve Stevens)
Fri Jan 20 15:07:42 2012

In-Reply-To: <CAJAdsDnBSuwRLeit6pXucGi7wqwgOZFqfSgDJ7iKq3KQZL0ptA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:06:56 +1100
From: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve@eintellego.net>
To: PC <paul4004@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

The MX80 license locked is not 5Gb

The MX5 is 20Gb TP - 20 SFP ports card, only one MIC slot active
The MX10 is 40Gb TP - 20 SFP ports card. both MIC slots active
The MX40 is 60Gb TP - 20 SFP ports card, both MIC slots + 2 of the onboard
10GbE ports
The MX80 is 80Gb TP - 20 SFP ports card, both MIC slots + all 4 of the
onboard 10GbE ports
The MX80-48T is 80Gb TP - 48 Copper ports, both MIC slots + all 4 of the
onboard 10GbE ports

Last year the licensed versions were called MX80-5G, MX8-10G and so on, but
as on this month they've renamed them to MX5, MX10, MX40's - note that the
old MX80 could come with or without -T timing support, the new ones ONLY
have timing.

=85Skeeve

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:50 AM, PC <paul4004@gmail.com> wrote:

> While the ASR1002 does offer more services, I generally disagree with som=
e
> parts of this comparison.
>
> Juniper has some very aggressive pricing on mx80 bundles license-locked t=
o
> 5gb, which are cheaper and blow the performance specifications of the
> equivalent low end ASR1002 out of the water for internet edge BGP
> applications.  Unlike the ASR, a simple upgrade license can unlock the
> boxes full potential.
>
> Just my opinion as a customer of both vendors...
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Saku Ytti <saku@ytti.fi> wrote:
>
> > On (2012-01-19 12:10 -0800), jon Heise wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone have any experience with these two routers, we're looking
> to
> > > buy one of them but i have little experience dealing with cisco route=
rs
> > > and zero experience with juniper.
> >
> > It might be because of your schedule/timetable, but you are comparing
> > apples to oranges.
> >
> > MX80 is not competing against ASR1k, and JNPR has no product to compete
> > with ASR1k.
> > MX80 competes directly with ASR9001. Notable differences include:
> >
> > ASR9001 has lot more memory (2GB/8GB) and lot faster control-plane
> > ASR9001 has 120G of capacity, MX80 80G
> > ASR9001 BOM is higher, as it is not fabricless design like MX80 (this
> > shouldn't affect sale price in relevant way)
> > ASR9001 does not ship just now
> >
> > As others have pointed out ASR1k is 'high touch' router, it does NAPT,
> > IPSEC, pretty much anything and everything, it is the next-gen VXR
> really.
> >
> > ASR9001 and MX80 both do relatively few things, but at high capacity.
> >
> > --
> >  ++ytti
> >
> >
>



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