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Re: Why not to use RPKI (Was Re: Argus: a hijacking alarm system)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Arturo Servin)
Fri Jan 20 07:46:52 2012

From: Arturo Servin <aservin@lacnic.net>
In-Reply-To: <CA+rW-LCMo3j8u_xWeHBtvam+FJQYuk2WXA9Zj5t2xaP3zFzN-A@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:45:31 -0200
To: Yang Xiang <xiangy08@csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn>
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On 20 Jan 2012, at 10:38, Yang Xiang wrote:

> RPKI is great.
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> But, firstly, ROA doesn't cover all the prefixes now,
> we need an alternative service to alert hijackings.

	Or to sign your prefixes.

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> secondly, ROA can only secure the 'Origin AS' of a prefix,

	That's true.

> while Argus can discover potential hijackings caused by anomalous AS =
path.

	Can you explain how?

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> After ROA and BGPsec deployed in the entire Internet (or, in all of =
your network),
> Argus will stop the service :)

	I was just suggesting to add a more deterministic way to =
detecting hijacks.

=09
Regards,
as

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> 2012/1/20 Arturo Servin <aservin@lacnic.net>
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>        You could use RPKI and origin validation as well.
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>        We have an application that does that.
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>        http://www.labs.lacnic.net/rpkitools/looking_glass/
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>        For example you can periodically check if your prefix is valid:
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> =
http://www.labs.lacnic.net/rpkitools/looking_glass/rest/valid/cidr/200.7.8=
4.0/23/
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>        If it were invalid for a possible hijack it would look like:
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> =
http://www.labs.lacnic.net/rpkitools/looking_glass/rest/invalid/cidr/200.3=
1.18.0/24/
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>        Or you can just query for any state:
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> =
http://www.labs.lacnic.net/rpkitools/looking_glass/rest/all/cidr/200.31.12=
.0/22/
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>=20
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> Regards,
> as
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> --=20
> _________________________________________
> Yang Xiang. Ph.D candidate. Tsinghua University
> Argus: argus.csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn
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