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Re: Megaupload.com seized

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Jan 20 06:10:12 2012

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <201201201025.q0KAPdM5040190@mail.r-bonomi.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:05:47 -0800
To: Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:25 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:

> 
> Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect most file sharing site don't have illegal content.  Most
>> would have some content that is there without the permission of the
>> copyright holder.  These are different things.
> 
> <nitpick>
>  "Without the permission of the copyright holder" _is_ contrary to
>  statute, and thus 'against the law'.  As such 'illegal' is _not_
>  an incorrect term to apply to the situation.
> 
>  It may not be a _criminal_ violation, but it is still proscribed by law.
> 
>  "Illegal" and "criminal" -- _these_ are different things.
> 
>  Junk faxing is illegal, Telemarketing calls to cell phones are illegal,
>  Public distribution without the permission of the copyright owner is
>  illegal.
> 
>  Except in special cases, none of those actions are _criminal_, but 
>  they are all violations of law, and thus _illegal_.
> 

Actually, they are all criminal violations. They may be infractions, or, they
may not often get prosecuted, but, each is, in fact, a criminal violation.

Owen



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