[148214] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Trouble accessing www.nanog.org
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Keith Medcalf)
Thu Jan 5 15:22:48 2012
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:21:53 -0700
In-Reply-To: <CAJNg7VKrx4inMyti+vAYN=8aduMhZHHZu8Q3Yjbt-k1xZU5q7A@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf@dessus.com>
To: "Marshall Eubanks" <marshall.eubanks@gmail.com>
Cc: "bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com" <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com>, "Wessels,
Duane" <dwessels@verisign.com>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
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> On Thursday, 05 January, 2012 08:30, Marshall Eubanks said:
> > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf@dessus.com> wro=
te:
> > > There is video hosting web sites on the intertubes?
> > > Now where would those be found, I wonder. =A0All I have ever seen is =
macro-
> > > streaming that is fraudulently labeled and advertised as video -- the=
worst
> > > being something called FlashVirus, which was written by a company cal=
led
> > > MacroVirus Media or something like that, and currently owned and flog=
ged by
> > > Adobe along with their "Proprietary Document Format" (the latest vers=
ions of
> > > which boast UVTD technology -- Unstoppable Virus Transport and Distri=
bution).
> > > If the so-called video contains arbitrary executable code (or can run
> > > arbitrary executable code), or requires the use of a specific applica=
tion to
> > > "play" (or infect the target), then it should not be described as
> > > "video". =A0It is a streaming-macro.
> Is H.264 Turing-complete ? Is Ogg-Vorbis ? (It seems like those are
> the two reasonable open standard choices.))
Okay by me. Just no "Flash Video Streams" if you please.
> Regards
> Marshall
> > Microsoft was the first OS vendor to add the "Execute Payload" header t=
o IP
> which saved much time and effort in the distribution of malicious code vi=
a
> the internet. =A0Unfortunatly, Adobe and several other vendors have paten=
ts on
> what is called the method of "Executable Data" and made Microsoft remove
> their wonderous invention under pain of patent lawsuits.
> >
> > Of course, maybe whats meant is File hosting, where the File being host=
ed
> just happens to contain video data in standard data format (preferably a
> pure-data format that does not embed execution macros of any type).
> >
> > ;)
> >
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> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.lists@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 04 January, 2012 20:47
> >> To: Michael K. Smith - Adhost
> >> Cc: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com; Wessels, Duane; nanog@nanog.org
> >> Subject: Re: Trouble accessing www.nanog.org
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost
> >> <mksmith@adhost.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Err, while we're talking about video files and nanog, why is the vi=
deo
> >> >> content still served off (stored content I mean) nanog.org servers?
> >> >> Why not use one of the many video serving services? some of which a=
re
> >> >> free even :)
> >> >> (that part's not a troll, a real question, even!)
> >> >> -chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The website work hasn't yet begun, so that is certainly still on the
> >> table. =A0If you would like to volunteer some of your time...
> >>
> >> I'm sure we could arrange some process to ingest videos to some form
> >> of video-hosting-website... a videotubes site let's say.
> >>
> >> who should I chat with?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
