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Re: Misconceptions, was: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Thu Dec 29 01:18:47 2011

To: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:51:00 +0900."
 <4EFBD594.2000604@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:17:17 -0500
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:51:00 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
> Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> > Quick sanity check on the hypothesis: Does Windows ship with an IGP enabled by
> > default?

> Sanity check with Windows? Are you sure?

It's a quick sanity check to this statment:

>> According to the end to end argument, the only possible solution
>> to the problem, with no complete or correct alternatives, is to
>> let hosts directly participate in IGP activities.

If it's the "only possible spolution", how come 99.8% of the end nodes
do just fine without it? Oh yeah..

> Note that the end to end argument has the following
> statement I omitted to quote:

> 	(Sometimes an incomplete version of the function provided
> 	by the communication system may be useful as a performance
> 	enhancement.)

> That is, there are incomplete solutions by intermediate systems
> which sometimes work.

For "sometimes" == 99.8% of the net.

> If you are saying SLAAC is not enough in your case with
> complicated manual management, I don't think I have to
> argue against you on how to simplify it.

It got simplfied with a handful of static routes and no IGP and no SLAAC
and no DHCP of any flavor. ;)

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