[147734] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nexus emulation? Anyone?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (-Hammer-)
Tue Dec 20 13:22:20 2011
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:18:47 -0600
From: -Hammer- <bhmccie@gmail.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <81162EB3-8A8F-40E1-9631-13ED0E6580CB@dsinn.com>
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Doesn't "Titanium" achieve this for you? I know. It's Internal. But it
simulates the 7k. Or am I getting it backwards?
My point is that if Cisco already simulates it Internally it's only a
matter of time before someone ports something....
-Hammer-
"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer
On 12/20/2011 12:19 PM, David Sinn wrote:
> I don't think anyone is asking for a full simulation of the platform in software, that is how the actual ASIC's operate. That is probably best for an entirely different conversation.
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> But there is huge need to simulate the control-plane functionally with a basic forwarding ability (not performant, but pass packets correctly such that you can verify the topology). This is something Dyanmips does great in emulating a cluster of 7200's and allows operators to validate topologies and planned changes in mainstream IOS platforms. Having that for NX-OS would increase the adoption and confidence in the platform. VM's on multiple boxes make simulating a whole network of a given platform simple and easy.
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> From the outside Cisco continues to miss the need for this. At least some of the other vendors are picking up how helpful this and are reacting positively to it.
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> David
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> <I've been ranting about this to my account team and Nexus management for a while now, so sorry if this is a duplicate you've already seen.>
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> On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Tim Stevenson wrote:
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>> You couldn't use Titanium to judge/discuss the nexus family as a whole either. Aside from 1KV, all the nexus products use ASIC hardware specific to that platform/linecard and no NXOS software emulator exists that mimics those behaviors.
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>> 2 cents,
>> Tim
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>> At 09:34 AM 12/20/2011, Luan Nguyen gushed:
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>>> You can't use the software switch Nexus 1000V to judge/discuss the Nexus
>>> family products N7K, N5K...etc as a whole?
>>>
>>> Check out this discussion
>>> <https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2054884>https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2054884
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>>> Titanium as they call the NX-OS simulator is not available to the public
>>> though...
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>>> -Luan
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>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:08 PM, -Hammer-<bhmccie@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Bah. Look like I need more of an education on Nexus in general. Thanks for
>>>> the easy pointer.
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>>>> -Hammer-
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>>>> "I was a normal American nerd"
>>>> -Jack Herer
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>>>> On 12/20/2011 11:02 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
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>>>>> On 20/12/2011 13:55, -Hammer- wrote:
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>>>>>> I know we can't throw NX code on Dynamips but I figured I would ask the
>>>>>> group anyway. We are starting to discuss Nexus platform options and I can
>>>>>> only get so much from demo depot before our AM gets whiny. Is anyone
>>>>>> currently emulating Nexus on anything that is open to the public?
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>>>>> nexus1k?
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>>>>> Nick
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>> Tim Stevenson, tstevens@cisco.com
>> Routing& Switching CCIE #5561
>> Distinguished Technical Marketing Engineer, Cisco Nexus 7000
>> Cisco - http://www.cisco.com
>> IP Phone: 408-526-6759
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