[147623] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leo Bicknell)
Thu Dec 15 16:45:01 2011
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:43:53 -0800
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
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In a message written on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 01:36:32PM -0800, David Conrad=
wrote:
> ARIN's job (well, beyond the world travel, publishing comic books, handin=
g out raffle prizes, etc.) is to allocate and register addresses according =
to community-defined documented policies. I had thought new allocations are=
based on demonstrated need. The fact that addresses are in use would seem =
to suggest they're needed. As I've said, I haven't been following ARIN's po=
licy discussions -- can you point me to the policy that says allocations ca=
n be denied because you happened to have (demonstrably ill-advisedly) used =
the wrong bit patterns in setting up your network?
The problem is that "in use" means different things to differnet
folks.
ifconfig em0 inet 10.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
I'm now using 16 million IP addresses at home. ARIN policy does
not allow me to get 16 million public IP addresses as a result,
based on the 1 machine I have configured at the moment.
In the case at hand we don't know if the original poster configured
up /16's on p2p links for two hosts each, or if they have an actual
host up and pingable at every single IP address. ARIN has a duty to the
community to ask these questions, because otherwise anyone could
fabricate a "need" for as many addresses as they want.
It would seem the original poster and ARIN have a disagrement in this
case as to how many IP addresses are required to support their needs.
Perhaps incomplete information was provided, perhaps ARIN staff got it
wrong. No one on NANOG has enough information to know either way.
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Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440
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