[14758] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Microsoft offering xDSL access
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (^Faust^)
Fri Jan 23 14:31:05 1998
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:12:40 -0800
From: ^Faust^ <faust@grift.com>
To: Geoff White <geoffw@precipice.v-site.net>
CC: David Lesher <wb8foz@nrk.com>, "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>,
nanog@merit.edu
Geoff White wrote:
> Well my understanding here in PacBell/SBC land is that the way it will
> work, (this comes from someone who made a naieve inquiry to another
> equally naieve saleperson at PacBell/SBC), is that you need to connect to
> PacBell's ATM backbone in order to order xDSL (the person just wanted to
> connect from their home to the office), when I heard this I though it was
> totally absurd but the truth, as they say is far stranger :)
Why is this absurd? You think coolocating routers at COs is less absurd?
Aggregating DSL traffic in a DSLAM and pumping it out via ATM is the
right way to do things.
(If I totally misunderstood and you are saying that using *ATM* is absurd, then
don't bother to reply. I'm an atheist.)
> What the salesguy was saying but (he really didn't know it) and what I
> found out from a little digging is that PacBell's intent is to only sell
> xDSl to CLECs ! So then it all makes sense, you need a router that
> connects to their ATM cloud, then they just route the traffic from their
> copper on over to your routers and presto! You are an xDSL enabled ISP!
This is crap. Covad, Brainstorm, DNAI, etc. are CLECs?! I don't think so. Yet
they seem to be able to offer xDSL using P*B.
