[147579] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel jaeggli)
Wed Dec 14 23:32:51 2011
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:31:50 -0800
From: Joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAAAwwbU_t0yaxYhKZrnD+9+1V=CgRBEW6vSsvZC7zYszinGj9w@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 12/14/11 18:46 , Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Fyi, I just was rejected from arin for an ipv4 allocation. I demonstrated I
>> own ~100k ipv4 addresses today.
>> My customers use over 10 million bogon / squat space ip addresses today,
>> and I have good attested data on that.
>
> Wait... you had started using bogon addresses / "squatted" space not
> allocated and claimed
> the number of IP addresses your network is using that were not
> allocated by a RIR
> settles the need justification question?
Anyone who has used their network in the last decade that actually
bother to look at their assigned ip address knows this.
>> Any suggestions on how to navigate this policy ?
>
> Work with ARIN to provide a satisfactory need justification for the
> entire allocation you are requesting.
> A mere count of the number of IP addresses you are currently using is
> not a need justification.
The wikipedia page shows something on the order of 34 million customers.
I don't expect they all need an ip at the same time.
> There has to be a technical reason that each IP address is required.
>
> "I'm making IANA-unsanctioned use of 10^9 bogon IP addresses, please
> allocate me 10^9 proper IP addresses, so I can have matching
> allocated IP space with global recognition instead"; just doesn't cut
> it.
>
> You need to have all the documentation to show the actual justified
> technical need for the IPs you request, such as what each specific
> address is used for.
>
>
> Regards,
> --
> -JH
>
