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Re: Time Warner Routing Issue

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Courtney Smith)
Wed Dec 14 17:41:26 2011

From: Courtney Smith <courtneysmith@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:40:14 -0500
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On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:09 PM, nanog-request@nanog.org wrote:

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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:46:52 -0500
> From: Brian Christopher Raaen <mailing-lists@brianraaen.com>
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Time Warner Routing Issue
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>  They said the reason was they didn't
> have an LOA (which they had gotten back in October) and the ip blocks =
were
> not in the Level3 Radb list.  I could still see announcement to some =
peers
> (Shaw Cable in Canada) in a few looking glasses and BGP routers.  =
However
> my network blocks were not showing for the larger US carriers like =
Qwest
> and AT&T.  One of their techs just called me back and said that Level3
> should be advertising it, but I still do not see the routes on the =
AT&T
> route server.  After noting that the tech said that it may take =
another day
> for BGP to "propagate" to other peers as they update their radb =
tables.  In
> my experience I've never seen anything where I had to wait for a route =
to
> propagate other than standard routing table updates which usually take =
less
> then an hour, and I'd really not expect this many problems between =
Tier1
> and Tier2 providers.  I need to know if this matches other's =
experience and
> wanting to know what other people were seeing with traceroutes and =
"show ip
> bgp".  The networks in question at the following 4 /24's
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> 68.68.176.0/24
> 68.68.177.0/24
> 68.68.178.0/24
> 68.68.179.0/24
>=20
> the serial ip address is 72.43.84.254
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> Thanks for your assistance.
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> ---
> Brian Raaen
> Zcorum
> Network Architect
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I believe the TWC tech is referring to prefix filter updates and not =
routing table updates.  Some of TWC's peers most likely use IRR based =
filters on their BGP sessions.  Most networks only check once a day for =
IRR changes and apply those changes to filters.  It looks TWC put in =
proxy route objects today for your blocks so I am guessing someone at =
TWC forgot to make the updates in advance.   Work around is for them to =
reach out to the peers with IRR based filters and request a manual =
update.   Sounds like that is what they are doing.

route:      68.68.176.0/24
descr:      RR-RC-Princetown Cable Company, Inc.-Albany
origin:     AS11351
notify:     ipaddreg@rr.com
mnt-by:     MAINT-RR
changed:    ipaddreg@rr.com 20111214
source:     RADB
route:      68.68.177.0/24
descr:      RR-RC-Princetown Cable Company, Inc.-Albany
origin:     AS11351
notify:     ipaddreg@rr.com
mnt-by:     MAINT-RR
changed:    ipaddreg@rr.com 20111214
source:     RADB

Run the below on 12/15 and it should return your blocks.
$ whois -h filtergen.level3.net radb::as11351 | grep 68.6
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Courtney Smith
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