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RE: Inaccessible network from Verizon, accessible elsewhere.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Huff)
Mon Dec 12 08:47:04 2011

From: Matthew Huff <mhuff@ox.com>
To: 'Adam Greene' <maillist@webjogger.net>, "'nanog@nanog.org'"
 <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:44:56 -0500
In-Reply-To: <4EE59EA1.6070400@webjogger.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

DSLReports Verizon forum reports routing issues in Westchester, Rockland an=
d Nassau. I tried a few traceroutes this morning. Some went through fine, o=
thers died at the first hop within Verizon.

People are reporting mixed results calling Verizon. Some techs are saying i=
t's a known issues, others are going through the standard script (reboot ro=
uter, reboot ONT, check settings on browser, i.e. clueless, even to the poi=
nt of saying that the person's router is bad and they would send them a new=
 one).



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Greene [mailto:maillist@webjogger.net]
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:27 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Inaccessible network from Verizon, accessible elsewhere.
>=20
> We're having strange issues in NYC metropolitan area.
>=20
> We can trace from Verizon FIOS to some IP addresses of our ASN 11579
> block. Others don't work. The IP's that don't work seem to die at
> 130.81.107.228 on the Verizon network.
>=20
> Something is rotten in Denmark. Or NY. You know what I mean.
>=20
> On 12/12/2011 1:02 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Matthew Huff<mhuff@ox.com>  wrote:
> >> Consumer fios. Verizon forums are full of posts about it. Too tired
> this evening to worry about it.
> > :( I'll have to do some testing when I get near a consumer fios
> > then... So, they squash all DNS NOT to their complexes, that seems
> > rather dastardly of them... considering they deployed that hateful
> > paxfire/nominum garbage on their recursive servers :(
> >
> > -chris
> >
> >> On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:48 PM, "Christopher
> Morrow"<morrowc.lists@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Matthew Huff<mhuff@ox.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> I'm seeing the same thing from my home lan via fios. I've run a
> recursive dns server for years and can't reach the roots. Had to switch
> to using verizon's dns servers as forwarders.
> >>>>
> >>> business or consumer fios?
> >>> 3  G0-9-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.104.180)  6.662
> ms
> >>> 6.739 ms  6.788 ms
> >>> 4  so-14-0-0-0.RES-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.22.56)  6.852 ms
> >>> 15.384 ms  8.184 ms
> >>> 5  0.ae2.BR1.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.32.158)  12.857 ms  12.927 ms
> >>> 13.004 ms
> >>> 6  dcp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (63.146.26.105)  12.429 ms  7.847 ms
> >>> 6.464 ms
> >>> 7  lap-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (67.14.22.78)  89.140 ms  88.929 ms
> >>> 89.032 ms
> >>> 8  63.146.26.70 (63.146.26.70)  94.879 ms  94.580 ms  93.120 ms
> >>> 9  sl-crs1-kc-0-0-0-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.112)  58.520 ms
> >>> 58.330 ms  58.186 ms
> >>> 10  144.232.25.193 (144.232.25.193)  49.950 ms
> >>> sl-crs1-oma-0-9-2-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.2.177)  49.962 ms
> >>> sl-crs1-oma-0-8-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.171)  47.687 ms
> >>> 11  sl-crs1-oro-0-3-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.25.207)  84.416 ms
> >>> 83.266 ms sl-crs1-oro-0-12-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.25.73)
> >>> 84.667 ms
> >>> 12  124.215.199.122 (124.215.199.122)  195.590 ms * *
> >>>
> >>> all of this seems to point at some kddi.net rouer gobbling packets,
> >>> no? (since pretty much everyone's got the same terminating hop) -
> >>> also note that while some folks traverse L3, my route is via
> qwest...
> >>>
> >>> it's interesting that 701 isn't picking their other peer (sprint)
> >>> here directly, no?
> >>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Brandon
> Kim"<brandon.kim@brandontek.com>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I too am now experiencing issues. I cannot get to www.cisco.com
> and various websites.
> >>>>> Some websites work lightning quick, some take a long time to
> load, and some just don't load at all.....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:55:40 +0900
> >>>>>> From: randy@psg.com
> >>>>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Inaccessible network from Verizon, accessible
> elsewhere.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> from home lan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> % traceroute gw-li377.linode.com
> >>>>>> traceroute to gw-li377.linode.com (106.187.34.1), 64 hops max,
> 52
> >>>>>> byte packets
> >>>>>> 1  192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)  1.471 ms  0.725 ms  0.555 ms
> >>>>>> 2  tokyo10-f03.flets.2iij.net (210.149.34.72)  7.241 ms  6.651
> ms
> >>>>>> 6.939 ms
> >>>>>> 3  tokyo10-ntteast0.flets.2iij.net (210.149.34.157)  5.573 ms
> >>>>>> 6.109 ms  5.346 ms
> >>>>>> 4  tky001lip20.iij.net (210.149.34.97)  6.410 ms  7.471 ms
> 7.934
> >>>>>> ms
> >>>>>> 5  tky001bb10.iij.net (58.138.100.209)  6.670 ms  9.251 ms
> 5.866
> >>>>>> ms
> >>>>>> 6  tky009bf00.iij.net (58.138.80.17)  6.730 ms
> >>>>>>     tky008bf02.iij.net (58.138.80.13)  7.021 ms
> >>>>>>     tky009bf00.iij.net (58.138.80.17)  8.593 ms
> >>>>>> 7  tky001ix05.iij.net (58.138.82.2)  9.767 ms
> >>>>>>     tky001ix05.iij.net (58.138.82.6)  6.101 ms
> >>>>>>     tky001ix01.iij.net (58.138.80.106)  8.420 ms
> >>>>>> 8  203.181.102.61 (203.181.102.61)  19.514 ms
> >>>>>>     203.181.102.21 (203.181.102.21)  6.054 ms
> >>>>>>     203.181.102.61 (203.181.102.61)  11.478 ms
> >>>>>> 9  otejbb203.kddnet.ad.jp (118.155.197.129)  7.457 ms
> >>>>>>     otejbb203.kddnet.ad.jp (59.128.7.129)  7.835 ms
> >>>>>>     otejbb204.kddnet.ad.jp (59.128.7.130)  7.824 ms
> >>>>>> 10  cm-fcu203.kddnet.ad.jp (124.215.194.180)  15.860 ms  16.401
> ms
> >>>>>>     cm-fcu203.kddnet.ad.jp (124.215.194.164)  17.519 ms
> >>>>>> 11  124.215.199.122 (124.215.199.122)  7.892 ms *  11.984 ms
> >>>>>>
> >
> >



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