[147470] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Overall Netflix bandwidth usage numbers on a network?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Sun Dec 11 22:50:22 2011
In-Reply-To: <5ECE9281-B6CB-4669-857D-07E10A7C499C@snappydsl.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:49:03 -0500
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Faisal Imtiaz <faisal@snappydsl.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <faisal@snappydsl.net> wrot=
e:
> Simple, keep traffic off paid ip transit circuits....
>
(I think joel's point was: "peer with amazon, done-and-done")
> Faisal
>
> On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
>
>> Netflix uses CDNs for content delivery and the platform runs in EC2. Wha=
t would peering with them achieve?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 18:06, Faisal Imtiaz <faisal@snappydsl.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Which leads to a question to be asked...
>>>
>>> Is netflix willing to peer directly with ISP / NSP's ?
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet& =A0Telecom
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/11/2011 7:29 PM, Dave Temkin wrote:
>>>> Feel free to contact peering@netflix<dot>com - we're happy to provide =
you with delivery statistics for traffic terminating on your network.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Dave Temkin
>>>> Netflix
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/11 8:57 AM, Blake Hudson wrote:
>>>>> Yeah, that's an interesting one. We currently utilize netflow for thi=
s, but you also need to consider that netflix streaming is just port 80 www=
traffic. Because netflix uses CDNs, its difficult to pin down the traffic =
to specific hosts in the CDN and say that this traffic was netflix, while t=
his traffic was the latest windows update (remember this is often a shared =
hosting platform). We've done our own testing and have come to a good solut=
ion which uses a combination of nbar, packet marking, and netflow to come t=
o a conclusion. On a ~160Mbps link, netflix peaks out between 30-50Mbps aro=
und 8-10PM each evening. The rest of the traffic is predominantly other for=
ms of HTTP traffic (including other video streaming services).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin Hepworth wrote the following on 12/3/2011 2:36 AM:
>>>>>> Also checkout Adrian Cockcroft presentations on their architecture w=
hich
>>>>>> describes how they use aws and CDns etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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