[147436] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Sad IPv4 story?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Keegan Holley)
Sat Dec 10 11:19:41 2011
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From: Keegan Holley <keegan.holley@sungard.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:17:32 -0500
To: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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2011/12/10 <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 03:15:01AM -0500, Keegan Holley wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:58 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> I just had a personal email from a brand new ISP in the Asia-Pacific
> > >> area desperately looking for enough IPv4 to be able to run their
> > >> business the way they would likeb &
> > >
> > > and we are supposed to be surprised or feel sorry? you're kidding,
> > > right? they're lucky to be in a/p. at least they can get a /22.
> > >
> > > i especially like the "the way they would like" part. the way i would
> > > like to run my business is to go into the office every friday and scoop
> > > up the cash that fell from the sky all week.
> > >
> > > reality is such a pain in the ass.
> > >
> > > randy
> > >
> > +1 aren't we way past all of the predicted exhaustion dates. There are
> slot of as's that have ignored this.
> > >
> >
>
> predictions are ... predictions! guesses. swag. nothing
> more/less.
>
> i will say this however. after fifteen years, I am exhausted
> listening to
>
> ipv6 v. ipv4 bickering. (and after five years of running native
> ipv6-only
>
> networks - i've re-introduced ipv4 to the mix... go figure)
>
> /bill
>
> I see your point. The world was supposed to end dozens of times as well.
Sorry to hear you had to reintroduce v4. I suppose if dinosaurs were
still around we'd have to capitulate to them too. The people who see a
T-rex and say "hey I thought they were extinct?!" would just get eaten. but
I digress. I'm not sure I'd open a new ISP at this point and expect to get
any respectable amount of IP space from the RIR right now.
