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Re: Traceroute explanation

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Bellovin)
Thu Dec 8 16:41:36 2011

From: Steven Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <9A5844D670E44A18B87B629A9E3848C0@work>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:39:49 -0500
To: "Meftah Tayeb" <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

I don't know what platform you're using, but there's a separate command. =
 See
http://www.shrubbery.net/astraceroute/ .  If you're using Linux, there's =
probably
a package in your favorite repository.  There seem to be other variants =
floating
around the net.  If you're using Windows, I have no idea what's =
available.


On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:56 16PM, Meftah Tayeb wrote:

> please tel me how to ?
> i don't know astraceroute:)
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Bellovin" =
<smb@cs.columbia.edu>
> To: "Meftah Tayeb" <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Fred Baker" <fred@cisco.com>; <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Traceroute explanation
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> On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:51 08PM, Meftah Tayeb wrote:
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>> big thank for that
>> but, i am testing that for one day :)
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> Can you do an AStraceroute or manually translate those addresses into =
AS#s?
> That is, might level3 and tinet  be using multiple AS#s, in which case =
this
> isn't unreasonable?
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Baker" <fred@cisco.com>
>> To: "Meftah Tayeb" <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>
>> Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Traceroute explanation
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>> This is just a guess, but I'll bet the route changed while you were =
measuring it.
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>> Traceroute sends a request, awaits a response, sends a request, ... =
Suppose that the route was
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>> 172.28.0.1 -> 10.16.0.2
>>         -> 41.200.16.1
>>         -> 172.17.2.25
>>         -> 213.140.58.10
>>         -> 195.22.195.125
>>         -> 4.69.151.13
>>         -> 213.200.68.61
>>         -> somewhere else
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>> and after the test got that far, two systems got inserted into the =
path before level3, resulting in the route entering level3 at a =
different point, 4.69.141.249. What you now have is
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>> 172.28.0.1 -> 10.16.0.2
>>         -> 41.200.16.1
>>         -> 172.17.2.25
>>         -> 213.140.58.10
>>         -> 195.22.195.125
>>         -> unknown
>>         -> unknown
>>         -> 4.69.141.249
>>         -> 77.67.66.154
>>         -> and so on
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>> The effect would be to get a result like this.
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>> Next time you see something like this, suggestion: repeat the =
traceroute and see what you get.
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>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Meftah Tayeb wrote:
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>>> Hey folks,
>>> i see a strange traceroute there
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>>> D=E9termination de l'itin=E9raire vers www.rri.ro [193.231.72.52]
>>> avec un maximum de 30 sauts :
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>>> 1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  172.28.0.1
>>> 2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  localhost [10.16.0.2]
>>> 3    10 ms    10 ms    13 ms  41.200.16.1
>>> 4    11 ms    10 ms    11 ms  172.17.2.25
>>> 5    21 ms    21 ms    21 ms  213.140.58.10
>>> 6    34 ms    31 ms    55 ms  pos14-0.palermo9.pal.seabone.net =
[195.22.197.125
>>> ]
>>> 7    34 ms    33 ms    35 ms  ae-5-6.bar2.marseille1.level3.net =
[4.69.151.13]
>>> 8   106 ms    68 ms    67 ms  xe-1-1-0.mil10.ip4.tinet.net =
[213.200.68.61]
>>> 9    74 ms    73 ms    74 ms  ae-1-12.bar1.budapest1.level3.net =
[4.69.141.249]
>>> 10    63 ms    63 ms    79 ms  euroweb-gw.ip4.tinet.net =
[77.67.66.154]
>>> 11    85 ms    84 ms    84 ms  v15-core1.stsisp.ro [193.151.28.1]
>>> 12   100 ms   100 ms   102 ms  inet-crli1.qrli1.buh.ew.ro =
[81.24.28.226]
>>> 13    81 ms    81 ms    81 ms  193.231.72.10
>>> 14    92 ms    92 ms    93 ms  ip4-89-238-225-90.euroweb.ro =
[89.238.225.90]
>>> 15    89 ms    89 ms    89 ms  webrri.rri.ro.72.231.193.in-addr.arpa =
[193.231.7
>>> 2.52]
>>> Itin=E9raire d=E9termin=E9.
>>> C:\Documents and Settings\TAYEB>
>>> Seabone, then level3, then Tinet, then level3, then tinet ?
>>> if is that a routing stufs that i don't know, please let me know :)
>>> i never saw that befaure
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> --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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		--Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb







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