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Re: [fyodor@insecure.org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Dec 6 21:22:41 2011

To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:10:14 PST."
 <C1FC59BC-47C3-4BC3-AE78-A06CA1650A10@delong.com>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:20:03 -0500
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

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On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:10:14 PST, Owen DeLong said:

> No, a Trojan is malware. Any software which operates without the
> knowledge or consent of the user to engage in operations the user would
> not reasonably expect is not being used for good, no matter how well
> intentioned.

Strictly speaking, it's "without the knowledge or consent of the *owner*". Especially
in corporate environments, "owner" != "user".

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