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RE: [fyodor@insecure.org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmapwith

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Tykwinski)
Tue Dec 6 12:01:52 2011

From: "Eric Tykwinski" <eric-list@truenet.com>
To: "nanog " <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <9523.1323190086@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:00:47 -0500
Cc: fyodor@insecure.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Maybe it's just me, but I would think that simply getting them listed on
stopbadware.org and other similar sites would probably have much more of an
effect.
The bad publicity can cause them to change tactics, but it takes some time.
I've seen much quicker results from blacklisting on Google and other search
engines.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300
F: 610-429-3222


-----Original Message-----
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:48 AM
To: andrew.wallace
Cc: fyodor@insecure.org; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [fyodor@insecure.org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling
Nmapwith malware!]

On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:14:48 PST, "andrew.wallace" said:
> Using fruitful language and acting like a child isn't going to see you
taken seriously.

No, he *does* want fruitful language - one that produces results.  I think
you meant some other word instead.

As far as "acting like a child", I'm reasonably sure that if CNet was doing
the same thing to the good name of your consulting company, you'd react
similarly.

> ----- Forwarded message from Fyodor <fyodor@insecure.org>

On the other hand, just being Fyodor is sufficient to get him taken
seriously.







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