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Re: IP addresses are now assets

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Mon Dec 5 22:11:13 2011

From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Paul Graydon <paul@paulgraydon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 03:09:50 +0000
In-Reply-To: <4ED8686C.6020803@paulgraydon.co.uk>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:55 AM, Paul Graydon wrote:

> On 12/1/2011 7:20 PM, John Curran wrote:
>> Wayne -
>>=20
>> Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
>> so I'd advise waiting to review the actual sale order once approved by
>> the court before making summary conclusions.
>>=20
>> ARIN holds that IP address space is not property but is managed as a
>> public resource.  Address holders may have certain rights (such as the
>> right to be the registrant of the address block, the right to transfer t=
he
>> registration, etc.) but these rights intersect with additional rights to=
 the
>> same address blocks which are held by the community (such as the right
>> of visibility to the public portion of registrations).  The registry pol=
icies
>> (set by the community via open and transparent processes) govern the
>> intersection and application of these rights.
>>=20
>> For this reason, ARIN works with parties transferring their rights in IP
>> address space to make sure that the documents reflect that sales of
>> rights are subject to the transfer policies in the region, including in =
this
>> particular case.  A party may transfer their rights to IP addresses, and
>> such rights may have value to an estate, but this does not make the
>> IP addresses "property" per se.
>>=20
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>>=20
>=20
> Why'd you have to spoil the fun?  You're supposed to wait a few days, let=
 the pointless righteous fury build up and then step in and try to do the f=
irefighting thing.  It's must have been all but a month since the last time=
 this flared up, it's surely about time it flared up again?  Wouldn't want =
anyone to miss out on the fun ;)

That's okay...  it will happen anyway. ;-)

For those who are following this matter, there are some more complete
articles now (including pointers to the court documents filed) -=20

  <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/05/borders_flogs_ipv4_addys/>
  <http://domainincite.com/docs/borders-cerner-ipv4.pdf>

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN=


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