[146816] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dynamic (changing) IPv6 prefix delegation
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Nov 22 15:50:46 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <13448.1321993859@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:49:24 -0800
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:43:35 PST, Owen DeLong said:
>=20
>>> Not sure why you'd blame Microsoft. HTTP{,S} is increasingly looking =
to be the real IPng.
>=20
>> Perhaps because they have done more than any other vendor to =
enable/encourage this trend?
>=20
> Actually, I'd nominate the creator of the PIX firewall box for that =
honor,
> mostly because it made it socially acceptable to do firewalling that =
caused
> other sites pain and suffering (SMTP fixups, anybody? :)
>=20
That would be John Mayes. The PIX was an outgrowth of Cisco's purchase =
of
a company called Network Address Translation (translation.com back in =
the
day). Frankly, the trend towards NAT and the need for some level of =
security
that was evolving in that day made most of those things inevitable.
Were there better approaches, perhaps. However, even with the PIX in =
place,
I think that Micr0$0ft did more to make http-based tunneling a =
widespread and
common phenomenon. It may have been pragmatic from their perspective, =
but,
it was also damaging to the internet and they were the ones that chose =
to be
pragmatic like that on a wide scale.
Owen
