[146632] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: economic value of low AS numbers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Nov 17 13:11:24 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAMbSiYCDCtgY=HwrTHXdKuiNkLppTwATivcyh_-GM_jpbei+hA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:08:05 -0800
To: Dave Hart <davehart_gmail_exchange_tee@davehart.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Nov 17, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Dave Hart wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 17:32, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>> ARIN policy does not currently support the transfer of AS numbers in
>> this manner. IMHO, it shouldn't, but, there is a policy proposal to
>> do so. I suggest that anyone interested in this subject review the
>> proposal and join the discussion on arin-ppml.
>>
>> Owen
>> (Speaking only for myself and not on behalf of the ARIN AC)
>
> Thanks. My policy search was focused on arin.net, but I didn't find
> what you apparently know. In particular, there's no reference to
> transfer of AS numbers in the NRPM, nor could I find any policy or
> procedure regarding updating POC or any other information associated
> with an AS registration. Do keep in mind I was referring specifically
> to legacy AS numbers, where it is not clear to me ARIN policy would
> control, particularly in the case of a merger or acquisition.
>
ARIN is the successor registry to the prior registries that distributed
AS Numbers, so, I believe that they are subject to ARIN policy. I realize
there are others that have different opinions, but I really don't want to
engage in that debate here.
ARIN policy currently does not provide for transfer of AS numbers other
than through NRPM 8.2 for merger/acquisition.
Martin Hannigan proposed the following:
http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-September/023136.html
which is on the AC docket as Proposal 158.
Personally, I do not favor this proposal. I don't think there is good reason
to allow the transfer of ASNs and I think that allowing transfers of IPv6
numbers is a really bad idea.
However, anyone with an interest in this proposal, whether in favor
or opposed should bring their opinion to arin-ppml.
> Would you refer me to the current ARIN policy regarding transfers of
> or updates to ASN registrations?
>
Updates are processed through the standard ARIN-online process
like updates to any other number resources. If you want additional
assistance on that, I suggest contacting the registration services
help desk by phone (703-227-0660) or email (hostmaster@arin.net).
Owen
