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Re: Arguing against using public IP space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Tue Nov 15 16:10:46 2011

Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:10:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <F94EB274-D5AC-4018-927C-97E4F1114643@delong.com>
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com>

> If your firewall is not working, it should not be passing packets.

Yes; your arguments all seem to depend on that property being true.

But we call it a *failure* for a reason, Owen.  

What the probability is of a firewall failing in such a fashion as to *stop
filtering, but still pass packets* depends -- as you have pointed out -- 
entirely on its design.

As *I* have pointed out, not all firewalls are created equal, and there are
a helluva a lot of them out there for which this desirable property *simply
is not true*.

Sticking your head in the sand on this point is not especially productive.

Cheers,
-- jra
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