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Re: Ok;

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Nov 14 16:11:16 2011

To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:55:14 EST."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:10:32 -0500
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:55:14 EST, Jay Ashworth said:

> On the other hand, since a firewall's job is to stop packets you don't want,

One of Marcus Ranum's "5 Stupidest Security Blunders" - "enumerating badness".
A firewall's job isn't to stop unwanted packets, it's to pass only wanted packets.

> if it stops doing it's just as a firewall, it's likely to keep on doing it's
> other job: passing packets.

As a result, a firewall that fails open rather than closed is mis-designed.

And if you're deploying a firewall and don't know if the failure mode is open or
closed, you probably get what you deserve when it fails.

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