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Re: Arguing against using public IP space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doug Barton)
Sun Nov 13 16:49:49 2011

Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:48:32 -0800
From: Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us>
To: Phil Regnauld <regnauld@nsrc.org>
In-Reply-To: <20111113212756.GD73635@macbook.bluepipe.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 11/13/2011 13:27, Phil Regnauld wrote:
> 	That's not exactly correct. NAT doesn't imply firewalling/filtering.
> 	To illustrate this to customers, I've mounted attacks/scans on
> 	hosts behind NAT devices, from the interconnect network immediately
> 	outside: if you can point a route with the ext ip of the NAT device
> 	as the next hop, it usually just forwards the packets...

Have you written this up anywhere? It would be absolutely awesome to be
able to point the "NAT IS A SECURITY FEATURE!!!" crowd to an actual
demonstration of why it isn't.


Doug

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