[146410] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Fri Nov 11 05:48:19 2011
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:47:50 +0000
In-Reply-To: <FF2591A7-2541-49F3-8C8D-13C105259DCE@virtualized.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Nov 10, 2011, at 11:59 AM, David Conrad wrote:
> A tiny dose of reality:=20
> - The Internet (and world population as a whole) is growing most rapidly =
in the Asia/Pacific region.=20
> - There are companies who demand IPv4 addresses for which the combined ye=
arly budgets of all the RIRs amounts to little more than a small fraction o=
f what those companies spend on their lawyers alone.
> - APNIC no longer has IPv4 addresses to meet that demand.
> - There now at least 4 different organizations offering IPv4 addresses fo=
r sale (addrex.net, kalorama.com, tradeipv4.com, ipv4marketgroup.com) who a=
re now participating in an estimated at $6 - $8 Billion market (and that's =
just legacy space).
>=20
> And you believe the couple of hundred folks who participate in ARIN are g=
oing to stand in the way of those business interests? I might gently sugge=
st it would probably be more useful to figure out how the new market player=
s and the "legacy" RIRs can coexist in a way that doesn't do severe damage =
to the Internet than it is to discuss how to rearrange the deck chairs in e=
ver more intricate designs in order to try to maintain unjustifiable monopo=
lies.
David -=20
We've got co-existence today for transfers within the ARIN region;
it is now not uncommon to see ("Sale may be subject to compliance=20
with policies of the American Registry of Internet Numbers") on=20
various solicitations involving resources registered in the region.
=20
At present, there is no way to transfer resources in or out of the
region, and whether that is desirable and under what constraints is=20
precisely the question at hand with draft policy ARIN-2011-1. To the=20
extent that folks have a view on this matter either in support or=20
against, I suggest that you make that view known on the ARIN Public
Policy Mailing List (ppml). As this policy will have some effect
on many in the Internet community, it would be best for folks to=20
take a moment to provide this important feedback.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
