[146014] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Johnson)
Sun Oct 30 23:39:48 2011
From: Brian Johnson <bjohnson@drtel.com>
To: "dcrocker@bbiw.net" <dcrocker@bbiw.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:36:50 +0000
In-Reply-To: <4EADA347.3020109@dcrocker.net>
Cc: "<nanog@nanog.org>" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Oct 30, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:
<snip ridiculousness>
>=20
> Email travels over shared resources. Spam consumes roughly %95 percent o=
f that shared path (comm lines and servers). Receiving operators must devo=
te masses of resources to filter that firehose of mostly junk, in order to =
get everyone's mailboxes to remain at least somewhat useful. Since the spam=
mers are well-organized and aggressive and often quite bright, they adapt t=
heir attacks to get round these filters, thereby creating an extremely unst=
able arms race. This means the entire situation is extremely unstable. Whe=
n -- not if -- it breaks, mail becomes unusable. That will be a common suf=
fering.
>=20
> The one-to-one cost or damage is probably also a reasonable perspective, =
but it's /incremental/ to the shared cost.
>=20
> d/
> --=20
>=20
> Dave Crocker
> Brandenburg InternetWorking
> bbiw.net
>=20
So you support filtering end-user outbound SMTP sessions as this is a means=
to prevent misuse of the Commons*. Correct?
- Brian
* I do not think of the Internet as a commons, but Dave does. I will not co=
mment on this as it is tangential to the thread.=
