[145775] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Did Internap lose all clue?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Holmes,David A)
Thu Oct 20 17:00:27 2011
From: "Holmes,David A" <dholmes@mwdh2o.com>
To: Jay Nakamura <zeusdadog@gmail.com>, bas <kilobit@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:59:25 -0700
In-Reply-To: <CADs2+OFMA75EPXvKFHCxPPhj79r5mnYhvjHbGtuBkQFt1JoH=w@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Looking at the link referenced below, the route optimization method mention=
ed appears to be very similar to the old Routescience or Sockeye BGP optimi=
zation products.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusdadog@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:54 PM
To: bas
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Did Internap lose all clue?
Well, it didn't say "router hops"... They could mean "AS hops" I
guess. I never trust marketing garbage anyway. It makes my head
hurt.
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:48 PM, bas <kilobit@gmail.com> wrote:
> Recently I was contacted by an Internap sales person.
> The third line of the email read:
>
> "As you know well, BGP makes all routing decisions simply based on HOP CO=
UNT"
>
> I blinked my eyes a couple of times.. Yes it really said hop count.
> Then I replied to the guy that if he tries to sell a technical product
> to technical people he should get his info straight.
>
> But he replied BGP actually makes decisions based on hop count.
> He even sent an URL from the internap website that states this
> http://www.internap.com/it-iq/route-optimization-miro/
>
> On that page there is also this gem:
> "BGP relies on the premise that hops are responsible for packet loss
> and congestion, and therefore a route with fewer hops is inherently
> better. "
>
>
> I can imagine blatant misinformation like this from a shady startup
> trying to trick some sales with smoke and mirrors, but from Internap?
>
>
> -- Bas
>
>
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