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Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bjoern A. Zeeb)
Sun Oct 16 05:16:58 2011

From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
In-Reply-To: <AAF7587C-6F54-4791-824F-1014192C7680@apnic.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:16:39 +0000
To: Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On 15. Oct 2011, at 19:25 , Geoff Huston wrote:

> Does anyone give a s**t about this any more?

Yes, and if only to tell people that we could do a lot better if we'd =
care more
about the Net than .. (?)economics(?) ..?

I keep wondering if people generate more elaborated filters based on the =
overall
data to get down table sizes rather than saying >=3D/24 only or similar?

To me it reads as we'd still be below 256k then rather than close to =
400k? Or more
realistically 300k-ish?  Anyone done any research how that would affect =
various
numbers in forwarding paths? *hide*


> =46rom what I learned at the latest NANOG it's very clear that nobody =
reads this any more.

Read? Or act?

Where are the BNOsFH these days?


> Is there any good reason to persist in spamming the nanog list with =
this report?

A good reason would be to add the same damned thing for IPv6 as well to =
avoid
us starting with the same *beep* there already.  There was a great =
number of
noise in the table when I last looked myself (given it's been a longer =
while).

Now we want to encourage people to deploy IPv6 and not make it harder =
for them
but a lot of obstacles in policies from the very early days are gone =
these days
and could be cleaned up before it's too late and in addition if people =
roll it
out now, why not do it once and do it right from the beginning, but =
where's the
education on `eek not the same *beep* as with legacy IP again`, as some =
people
are trapped in BBCP (bad best current practices)?

Well I know you have it online, but polling a website is harder than =
getting
it delivered to the inbox every week;)

/bz

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Bjoern A. Zeeb                                 You have to have visions!
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