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RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Huff)
Thu Oct 13 08:46:33 2011
From: Matthew Huff <mhuff@ox.com>
To: 'Jamie Bowden' <jamie@photon.com>, 'Joe Abley' <jabley@hopcount.ca>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:43:34 -0400
In-Reply-To: <275FEA2949B48341A3B46F424B613D857D89@WDC-MX.photon.com>
Cc: "'nanog@nanog.org'" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
It's called Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync :)=20
It works with Android, Apple and Microsoft devices. I believe both Lotus an=
d Groupwise have licensed and support it as well. We have a few (but now, v=
ery few) blackberry users remaining. They won't let it go until we rip it o=
ut of their hands.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie Bowden [mailto:jamie@photon.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:36 AM
> To: Joe Abley
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
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> You are correct. The BES uses PSKs to talk to RIM's servers, which then
> uses them to talk to the devices over the carrier networks. All of this
> was in complete failure mode until sometime overnight when it appears to
> have all started flowing again. Someday either Google or Apple will get
> off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that
> plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can all
> gladly toss these horrid little devices in the recycle bins where they
> belong.
>=20
> Jamie
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley@hopcount.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:06 PM
> > To: Phil Regnauld
> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
> >
> >
> > On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote:
> >
> > > Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
> > >>
> > >> On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
> > >>
> > >> The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of
> > processing intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the
> > core as a simple transport and shift the processing intelligence to
> the
> > edge have different, less-dramatic failure modes.
> > >
> > > This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated
> > servers,
> > > AFAIU.
> >
> > I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic
> > between handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device through
> a
> > cellular network, still flows through RIM.
> >
> >
> > Joe
