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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide,

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Wed Oct 12 11:42:30 2011

To: "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:41:50 -0400
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this perhaps being sabotage.

It ain't sabotage till you rule out "misconfigured router".

Consider the actual real-world threat models and their likelyhoods:

1) Insufficiently caffienated network engineer - this *NEVER* happens in real
life, it's a total Bruce Schneier caliber movie-plot scenario.

2) Somebody sabotaging a RIM router.  This is more likely, because there's just
*bazillions* of people out there that stand to benefit from a RIM outage (and
in fact profit more from an outage than from being able to watch traffic as it
goes by).  It's just a question of which one of those bazillions did it *this*
time.

Andrew, you *really* need to learn what the actual failure modes and
root causes in real-life production networks are, and draw conclusions from
reality, not whatever MI-7 inspired dream world the claim of "sabotage"
came from.


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