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RE: meeting network

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Menerick, John)
Mon Oct 10 16:15:40 2011

From: "Menerick, John" <jmenerick@netsuite.com>
To: JC Dill <jcdill.lists@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:13:49 -0700
In-Reply-To: <4E933B18.8010501@gmail.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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"....Also note - the conference or hotel's IT people will always claim they
have "done this before with no problems" even when they haven't....."

Sounds like a true sales person :)


- John Menerick

________________________________________
From: JC Dill [jcdill.lists@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:36 AM
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: meeting network

On 10/10/11 7:00 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> It would be wise for NANOG to approach future venues and specifically dis=
cuss these things with the hotel IT departments in question ahead of time s=
o that they have some remote chance of being prepared.

I tried this approach many years ago, for a Blogher conference.  The
hotel's IT people were uncooperative, and incompetent, and they lied
both about their network design and their equipment capabilities.  I
have since learned that this is par for the course.  IMHO the only way
to solve this problem is with big $$$ penalties in the contract, big
enough that the incompetent IT people realize their jobs are on the line
and relinquish control so experts can get access and set-up things properly=
.

Also note - the conference or hotel's IT people will always claim they
have "done this before with no problems" even when they haven't.

jc




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