[145280] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET moved to Beijing?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Mon Oct 3 10:48:08 2011
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:46:58 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com>
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> ignoring randy (and others) off-topic comments about hypocrisy
actually, if you had followed the thread in its sad detail, at that
point of jingoism they were on.
> this situation is fundamentally a situation of bad (or different)
> network policy being applied outside of its scope.
kink is gonna leak. rfc1918 is gonna leak. ula-foo is gonna leak.
pakistani kink is gonna leak. anycast 'local' cones are gonna leak.
chinese kink is gonna leak. american kink is gonna leak.
s/are gonna/has already/g
are people gonna stop doing kink? sadly, not likely. so all we are
left is
Danny McPherson wrote:
> Network layer integrity techniques and secure routing infrastructure
> are all that's going to fix this.
and
Danny McPherson wrote:
> In the interim, the ability to detect such incidents at some rate
> faster than the speed of mailing lists would be ideal.
is not a lot of good unless you insert "and fix." watching train wrecks
is about as fun as reading pontification on nanog. qed :)
randy
