[144889] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Sep 20 15:21:27 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.1109201156590.25015@soloth.lewis.org>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:16:01 -0700
To: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
>=20
> If you open the door to that sort of interpretation, then every org =
with a T1 and a backup dial-up connection can claim to be "multihomed".
>=20
You say that like it's a bad thing.
> In either of these cases, it's not enough to just have the connection. =
The ARIN NRPM definition of Multihomed includes "has one or more routing =
prefixes announced by at least two of its upstream ISPs." Are you =
really going to announce your prefix[es] to both your real provider =
_and_ your ridiculously low bandwidth provider? Even if you prepend the =
latter considerably, you're likely to receive some traffic via that =
path.
>=20
If you have a GRE tunnel to each of 2 ISPs and announce your route over =
BGP to them, or, have some other configuration with them and they both =
announce your prefix to the rest of the world, that meets the ARIN test. =
The rest is an issue for the network administrator and not a matter for =
ARIN policy.
ARIN policy does not require your network to be functional or even =
useful. It's up to each administrator to decide how they want to operate =
their network and what level of dysfunction/lost packets they consider =
acceptable.
>> It's a slippery slope from "v.90 not good enough" to "less than 2xOCn =
not
>> good enough" where n can be adjusted to suitably limit competition...
>=20
> Perhaps the manual should be updated to replace "full-time =
connectivity" with something a bit more fleshed out specifying that the =
full-time connectivity be via dedicated circuit [frame-relay permanent =
virtual circuits included, if you can still find a LEC willing to sell =
them] or PTP wireless.
>=20
I would oppose such a policy change. I believe it is out of scope for =
ARIN's mission of address administration.
Owen
