[144765] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Sun Sep 18 21:26:38 2011
From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: "'Leigh Porter'" <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com>,
"'Charles N Wyble'" <charles@knownelement.com>
In-Reply-To: <D181DDABABE57E4DB72FEE00331478643C1537@EALPO1.ukbroadband.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:25:01 -0500
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Reply-To: frnkblk@iname.com
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I understand that tunneling meets the letter of the ARIN policy, but =
I'll make the bold assumption that wasn't the spirit of the policy when =
it was written. Maybe the policy needs to be amended to clarify that.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Leigh Porter [mailto:leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 6:37 PM
To: frnkblk@iname.com; 'Charles N Wyble'; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on =
building a nationwide network
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnkblk@iname.com]
> Sent: 18 September 2011 23:14
> To: 'Charles N Wyble'; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on
> building a nationwide network
>=20
> Where I live in rural America, I would not be surprised that someone
> who wanted to start an ISP might only be able to cost-justify one
> upstream. When one Internet T-1 is $1,200/month, getting a second T-1
> for that price from another provider just to get an AS or PI is
> definitely cost-prohibitive and may go against their business plan.
>=20
> Our own company has just one upstream provider (from geographically
> diverse POPs), our state's telecom coop, and to multi-home solely to
> meet ARIN's policy doesn't make sense. Fortunately we were using
> enough address space to meet the /20 requirement.
>=20
> Charles, if you wrote a policy that allowed smaller ISPs to obtain a =
PI
> without the multihoming requirement if they demonstrated that
> multihoming was burdensome, I would support it at arin-ppml.
>=20
> Frank
I'll happily 'multihome' anybody over a GRE tunnel if it helps ;-)
--
Leigh
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