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Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Benson Schliesser)
Sun Sep 18 14:55:37 2011
From: Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>
In-Reply-To: <m2sjntaos3.wl%randy@psg.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:53:57 -0400
To: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sep 18, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
> i just think that we, as a culture, have let things get waaaay out of
> whack. john is paid to defend the status grow.
I like that: "status grow". It seems pretty clear to me that, as =
humans, we're not very good at organizational contraction. We're much =
better at expanding scope, even until it produces undesirable =
consequences. Competition is a friend in such scenarios, when it's =
allowed... As are revolutions, when competition is not allowed.
In John's case (on behalf of ARIN as is befitting his role) he welcomes =
change as long as it's funneled through the ARIN-managed channels. In =
other words, change is welcome as long as it reinforces ARIN's role as =
facilitator. Unfortunately, the gauntlet of "policy weenies" that =
influence ARIN don't necessarily represent the "community" as they might =
claim - they represent themselves, their ideologies, etc. So if you =
want the ARIN system to change, it's your choice whether to engage =
within that system or outside it. Neither seems very useful to me; we =
can just ignore ARIN as alternatives emerge, and ARIN can catch up or =
not.
Which, astoundingly, leads to an operational comment / question: As =
IPv4 trading is already taking place, what are you (as operators) =
planning to do when asked to route prefixes that have been bought/sold? =
Will you accept alternative (whois) registry sources? Will you accept =
legal documentation proving ownership and/or right-to-use, as an =
alternative to registry validation?
Cheers,
-Benson
