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Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel jaeggli)
Sat Sep 17 13:08:58 2011

Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:06:49 -0700
From: Joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Nathan Eisenberg <nathan@atlasnetworks.us>
In-Reply-To: <8C26A4FDAE599041A13EB499117D3C286B569FFB@ex-mb-1.corp.atlasnetworks.us>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 9/16/11 13:50 , Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
>>> As an ISP, ARIN will not give you any space if you are new. You
>>> have to already have an equivalent amount of space from another
>>> provider.
>> 
>> does arin *really* still have that amazing barrier to market
>> entry?
> 
> Yes.  If you want PI space, you have to start off with PA space,
> utilize it, and then apply for PI space and an AS #, with contracts
> demonstrating your intention to multihome.  Then, you have to
> *migrate* off the PA space and surrender it back to the 'owner'.  You
> cannot get further PI allocations until you've done this.

The ARIN community is easily it's own worst enemy.





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