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Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Fri Sep 16 16:58:16 2011

Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:56:17 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Nathan Eisenberg <nathan@atlasnetworks.us>
In-Reply-To: <8C26A4FDAE599041A13EB499117D3C286B569FFB@ex-mb-1.corp.atlasnetworks.us>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 08:50:56PM +0000, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
> > > As an ISP, ARIN will not give you any space if you are new. You have
> > > to already have an equivalent amount of space from another provider.
> > 
> > does arin *really* still have that amazing barrier to market entry?
> 
> Yes.  If you want PI space, you have to start off with PA space, utilize it, and then apply for PI space and an AS #, with contracts demonstrating your intention to multihome.  Then, you have to *migrate* off the PA space and surrender it back to the 'owner'.  You cannot get further PI allocations until you've done this.
> 

	good thing Mr Hushmail does not have to deal w/ this policy.  He
	can go to Ripe and get space... :)

/bill


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