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Re: Why are we still using the CA model? (Re: Microsoft deems all

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hughes, Scott GRE-MG)
Sun Sep 11 23:06:55 2011

From: "Hughes, Scott GRE-MG" <SHughes@GREnergy.com>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:06:04 -0500
In-Reply-To: <CAL9jLaYYp9CK4kjdUZwae4PTGmQXEzm9UQp2oL9hkNFUMJotKg@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG mailing list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Sep 11, 2011, at 9:44 PM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>=
 wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Christopher Morrow
>> <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> what's the real benefit of an EV cert? (to the service owner, not the
>>> CA, the CA benefit is pretty clearly $$)
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>> The benefit is to the end user.
>> They see a green address bar  with the company's name displayed.
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>> Yeah, company's name displayed -- individuals cannot apply for EVSSL cer=
ts.
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> this isn't really a benefit though, is it? isn't the domain-name in
> the location bar doing the same thing?

No. As a counter example... How may domain names do Wells Fargo and Citiban=
k (Citi Corp? Citi Group?) operate respectively? I'm a customer, and I can'=
t keep it straight.=20

Companies that wrap their services with generic domain names (paymybills.co=
m and the like) have no one to blame but themselves when they are targeted =
by scammers and phishing schemes. Even EV certificates don't help when cons=
umers are blinded by subsidiary companies and sister companies daily (Motor=
ola Mobility a.k.a. Google vs. Motorola Solutions.)


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